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8.

The Discourse to Vāseṭṭha

454. Thus have I heard - On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at Icchānaṅgala in the Icchānaṅgala forest thicket. Now at that time several well-known wealthy brahmins were dwelling at Icchānaṅgala, as follows - the brahmin Caṅkī, the brahmin Tārukkha, the brahmin Pokkharasāti, the brahmin Jāṇussoṇi, the brahmin Todeyya, and other well-known wealthy brahmins. Then, as the young men Vāseṭṭha and Bhāradvāja were walking up and down and wandering about on a walk, this discussion arose - "How, friend, does one become a brahmin?" The young man Bhāradvāja said thus - "When, friend, one is well-born on both sides, on his mother's side and on his father's side, of pure descent up to the seventh generation of ancestors, unassailed and irreproachable with respect to birth - to this extent, friend, one is a brahmin." The young man Vāseṭṭha said thus - "When, friend, one is virtuous and dutiful - to this extent, friend, one is a brahmin." Indeed the young man Bhāradvāja was not able to convince the young man Vāseṭṭha, nor was the young man Vāseṭṭha able to convince the young man Bhāradvāja. Then the young man Vāseṭṭha addressed the young man Bhāradvāja: "This, friend Bhāradvāja, the ascetic Gotama, a Sakyan son who has gone forth from the Sakyan clan, is dwelling at Icchānaṅgala in the Icchānaṅgala forest thicket. And concerning that Master Gotama, such a good reputation has arisen - 'Thus indeed is the Blessed One: the Worthy One, the One Enlightened by himself, accomplished in true knowledge and conduct, the Fortunate One, knower of the world, unsurpassed trainer of persons to be tamed, Teacher of gods and humans, the Enlightened One, the Blessed One.' Come, friend Bhāradvāja, let us go to where the ascetic Gotama is; having approached, we will ask the ascetic Gotama about this matter. As the ascetic Gotama answers us, so we will remember it." "Yes, friend," the young man Bhāradvāja assented to the young man Vāseṭṭha.

455. Then the young men Vāseṭṭha and Bhāradvāja approached the Blessed One; having approached, they exchanged friendly greetings with the Blessed One. Having concluded the pleasant and memorable talk, they sat down to one side. Seated to one side, the young man Vāseṭṭha addressed the Blessed One in verses -

"Acknowledged and approved, we both possess the threefold true knowledge;

I am of Pokkharasāti, this young man is of Tārukkha.

"Whatever has been declared by those who possess the threefold true knowledge, therein we are complete;

In verse and grammar, in recitation equal to our teachers;

Between us there is a dispute about birth, Gotama.

"One is a brahmin by birth, thus Bhāradvāja says;

But I say by action, know this, O One with Vision.

"We two are unable to convince each other;

We have come to ask you, renowned as the Enlightened by himself.

"Just as people with joined palms, after death, approach the moon that has passed beyond waning;

Paying homage, they venerate Gotama in the world.

"The Eye arisen in the world, we ask Gotama;

Is one a brahmin by birth, or does one become so by action?

Tell us who do not know, so that we may know the brahmin."

456.

"I will explain to you,

Gradually, according to truth;

The analysis of births among living beings, for births are mutually different.

"Know even grasses and trees, yet they do not acknowledge it;

Their mark is determined by birth, for births are mutually different.

"Then insects and moths, even down to lice and ants;

Their mark is determined by birth, for births are mutually different.

"Know also quadrupeds, both small and large;

Their mark is determined by birth, for births are mutually different.

"Know also those whose bellies are their feet, snakes with long backs;

Their mark is determined by birth, for births are mutually different.

"Then know also fish, living in water, feeding in water;

Their mark is determined by birth, for births are mutually different.

"Then know also birds, winged ones travelling by wings;

Their mark is determined by birth, for births are mutually different.

"Just as among these births, the mark determined by birth is manifold;

Thus there is not among humans, a mark determined by birth that is manifold.

"Not by hair, not by head, not by ears, not by eyes;

Not by mouth, not by nose, not by lips or eyebrows.

"Not by neck, not by shoulders, not by belly, not by back;

Not by hip, not by chest, not by private parts, not by sexual organs.

"Not by hands, not by feet, not by fingers or nails;

Not by calves, not by thighs, not by colour or voice;

There is indeed no mark determined by birth, as in other births.

457.

"And individually in bodies, this is not found among humans;

And the distinction among humans is spoken of by convention.

"Whoever among humans lives by cow-keeping;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know that he is a farmer, not a brahmin.

"Whoever among humans lives by various crafts;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know that he is a craftsman, not a brahmin.

"Whoever among humans lives by trade;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know that he is a merchant, not a brahmin.

"Whoever among humans lives by serving others;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know that he is a servant, not a brahmin.

"Whoever among humans lives by what is not given;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know that he is a thief, not a brahmin.

"Whoever among humans lives by archery;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know that he is a warrior, not a brahmin.

"Whoever among humans lives by the office of chaplain;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know that he is a sacrificer, not a brahmin.

"Whoever among humans consumes village and country;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know that he is a king, not a brahmin.

"And I do not call one a brahmin who is womb-born, arisen from a mother;

He is called a 'bho-sayer' by name, if he has possessions;

One who owns nothing, without grasping, him I call a brahmin.

458.

"Having cut all mental fetters, whoever indeed is not agitated;

Gone beyond attachment, unbound, him I call a brahmin."

"Having cut the thong and the strap, the chain together with the knot;

With the bar lifted, awakened, him I call a brahmin.

"Whoever, without anger, endures reviling, murder and bondage;

Whose power is patience, whose military unit is power, him I call a brahmin.

"Without wrath, observant of religious duties, virtuous, without excess;

Tamed, bearing the final body, him I call a brahmin.

"Like water on a lotus leaf, like a mustard seed on a needle's tip;

Whoever does not cling to sensual pleasures, him I call a brahmin.

"Whoever understands the elimination of his own suffering right here;

With burden laid down, unbound, him I call a brahmin.

"Of profound wisdom, intelligent, skilled in what is the path and what is not the path;

Having attained the highest good, him I call a brahmin.

"Unassociated with householders, and with homeless ones, both;

Not dwelling in a home, of few wishes, him I call a brahmin.

"Having laid aside the rod towards beings, towards those that tremble and those that are firm;

Whoever neither kills nor causes to kill, him I call a brahmin.

"Unopposed among the opposed, quenched among those who have taken up the rod;

Without grasping among those with grasping, him I call a brahmin.

"For whom lust and hate, conceit and contempt have been laid down;

Like a mustard seed from a needle's tip, him I call a brahmin.

459.

"One who utters speech that is not harsh, informative, truthful;

By which he does not offend anyone, him I call a brahmin.

"One who does not take what is not given in the world, whether long or short, subtle or gross, beautiful or ugly;

Him I call a brahmin.

"One in whom hopes are not found, in this world or the next;

Desireless, unbound, him I call a brahmin.

"One in whom attachments are not found, who through final knowledge is free from doubt;

Grounded upon the Deathless, having attained it, him I call a brahmin.

"One who here has gone beyond both merit and evil, both attachments;

Sorrowless, stainless, pure, him I call a brahmin.

"Like the moon, spotless, pure, serene, undisturbed;

With delight and existence exhausted, him I call a brahmin.

"One who has overcome this dangerous path, this difficult passage, the round of rebirths, and delusion;

Who has crossed over, gone beyond, a meditator, without longing, free from doubt;

Quenched by non-clinging, him I call a brahmin.

"One who here, having abandoned sensual pleasures, wanders forth homeless;

With sensual existence exhausted, him I call a brahmin.

"One who here, having abandoned craving, wanders forth homeless;

With craving and existence exhausted, him I call a brahmin.

"Having abandoned the human bond, having overcome the divine bond;

Unbound from all bonds, him I call a brahmin.

"Having abandoned delight and discontent, become cool, without clinging;

A hero, overlord of all the world, him I call a brahmin.

"One who knows the passing away and rebirth of beings in every way;

Non-attached, the Fortunate One, awakened, him I call a brahmin.

"One whose destination gods, gandhabbas, and humans do not know;

One who has eliminated the mental corruptions, a Worthy One, him I call a brahmin.

"One for whom there is nothing in the past, in the future, or in the present;

One who owns nothing, without grasping, him I call a brahmin.

"The bull, the excellent, the hero, the great sage, the victorious;

Without longing, bathed, awakened, him I call a brahmin.

"He who knows past lives, and sees heaven and the realms of misery;

And also has attained the destruction of birth, him I call a brahmin.

460.

"This is merely a designation in the world, name and clan are arranged;

Arisen from convention, arranged here and there.

"Lying dormant for a long time, a wrong view of those not knowing;

Not knowing, they tell us, 'One is a brahmin by birth.'

"Not by birth is one a brahmin, not by birth is one a non-brahmin;

By action one is a brahmin, by action one is a non-brahmin.

"By action one is a farmer, by action one is a craftsman;

By action one is a merchant, by action one is a servant.

"By action too one is a thief, by action too one is a warrior;

By action one is a sacrificer, by action too one is a king.

"Thus the wise see this action as it really is;

Seers of dependent origination, skilled in the result of action.

"By action the world goes on, by action the generation goes on;

Beings are bound by action, like the linchpin of a moving chariot.

"By austere asceticism, by the holy life, by self-control and by taming;

By this one is a brahmin, this is the highest brahmin quality.

"Accomplished in the three true knowledges, peaceful, with rebirth eliminated;

Thus, Vāseṭṭha, know this, he is Brahmā and Sakka to those who understand."

461. When this was said, the young men Vāseṭṭha and Bhāradvāja said to the Blessed One: "Excellent, Master Gotama, excellent, Master Gotama! Just as, Master Gotama, one might set upright what had been overturned, or reveal what had been concealed, or point out the path to one who was lost, or hold up an oil lamp in the darkness - so that those with eyes might see forms - just so, the Teaching has been made clear by Master Gotama in many ways. We go for refuge to Master Gotama, to the Teaching, and to the Community of monks. May Master Gotama remember us as lay followers who have gone for refuge from this day forth for life."

The Discourse on Vāseṭṭha is concluded as eighth.

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